Pence 1, Kaine 0.

I am still voting for Hillary Clinton. But Pence stepped up in the Vice-Presidential debates last night. He was gathered, genuine and at times even presidential. Both candidates were prepared. Neither said anything dumb. Kaine does have that neutered-male weenie patrol new age lackey quality. But both Pence and Kaine are decent if somewhat lackluster pols who could be POTUS if they had to be.